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Soul Bender Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Slayer' started by MasPan, May 2, 2010.

  1. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    Exactly what it says on the tin.
  2. Glamador Use My Voice Pack Darnit!

    Well, I think I'll start off this thread by posting my build as an example of what a PvE Bender build might look like to potential newcomers. And it let's new people get acquainted with the skill planner sooner than later:

    Lvl 50 - http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/...vVevXbwIbwKbwObwPbxAgxCfxFbxHbxJk0Tb0Ub9Ac9Pb
    Lvl 60 - http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/...wIbwKbwObwPbxAjxCkxFbxHbxJkxMbxOf0Tb0Ub9Ac9Pb

    I'm still waffling a bit about where to leave Kalla. I love it, it's a fun skill, but since I've gotten it I've used it extremely infrequently in dungeons...
  3. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    The same is true for me, and I rarely see it used in any kdnf videos without heavy party support. It's a huge source of damage, but against most targets it's just not practical. I'll still be maxing it to take advantage of Fear of Darkness though.
  4. Jrod Mr. NoTitle

    What set is more useful Felcon Incubi or Soul Returner?
  5. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    As a whole? FI for PvE, SR for PvP.
  6. Fynl Lunchbox Hero

    What's the biggest difference between the 2 sets? The only thing I notice is that the SR set is cheaper, gives attack speed, but gives 1 less Saya.
  7. Glamador Use My Voice Pack Darnit!

    That 1 less Saya is what makes it worse for PvE. FI also has MP/min on the shoulders, which is desirable. Freeze level is everything with Saya and that extra point does wonders.
  8. RawrBomb New Member

    I've been starting at the potential of a Soul Bender for quite a while now. Thinking he'd be a ghost-er, so meant for PvE.

    Took Glama's build and tweaked a little bit.

    My couple questions:
    -Is there a reason to level Ghost Slash and Moonlight Slash beyond level 5?
    -Why is Ghost Slash Drive maxed out? Does it really scale that well?
    -Is there any need for Ghost/Moonlight cancels, in either PvE or PvP?
    -Is there any need to level Ghost Step Slayer and Khalla beyond level 1, or is your bang or your buck just not high enough to warrant beyond level 1?
  9. Fynl Lunchbox Hero

    I see. I was just wondering since I play my sb not too often and I didn't want to shell out the extra money for something that won't be helpful to me for an extra 5 levels.
    Thanks for clarifying though :)
  10. Jrod Mr. NoTitle

    GS and MLS are good at lvl 5, anything higher in MLS would be a waste of points imo. 9 GSD with 5 GS does more dmg then 10 GS with 5 GSD. Cancel MLS would be an alternative to Upward Cancel. Kalla isnt used much in dungeons I only use it for the release form on bosses. You build is good to go.
  11. Piggy 2.0 Come out of the Kitchen?

    Level 50

    Level 60

    My build after reading threads and watching videos about sbs. More PvE oriented, but I think I can PvP with it..
  12. CasualHero New Member

  13. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    I'm more than happy to discuss the merits of individual skills, but I will not comment on builds.

    1. Too much work to do over and over
    2. I dislike telling people what they should do with their character
  14. RawrBomb New Member

    Okay Brandon. Individual questions then:
    -Is Ghost Slash and MLS worth going over level 5?
    -Is Ghost Slash Drive (GSD, lol!) worth maxing?
    -Ghost Slash/MLS cancels, good or no?
  15. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    -AND? usually no. OR? yes. Generally it's a "pick one" type situation. Ghost Slash is a more reliable move to max, and can benefit more with Ghost Slash Drive. MLS also suffers as a juggle tool if leveled too highly. However, MLS tends to connect more often (PvP), so it might be worth leveling. Ghost Slash, it should be noted, suffers no penalty on damage in PvP.
    -If you do, do it for the procs, not for damage (while noteworthy, there are plenty of other damage sources)
    -Not recommended unless you have a specific reason for wanting them (unusual combos, etc)
  16. Garble o no

    Any info on what the SB awakening quest requires?
  17. Fynl Lunchbox Hero

    What do you guys think about Kalla, those of you that have used it?
    Pre-45 skills, I use to hear about how it's the greatest skill in the world and everyone should max it no matter what, no questions asked, but nowadays, I hear how it's situational and too fussy, so I'd like some concrete opinions on it from people with experience with it :(
    Also, is Blanche commonly maxed (or ever maxed?) by people in versions with it? Or is it just one of those skills where 1 is all you should ever get.

    EDIT: I'm pure PvE
  18. Garble o no

    Kalla is pretty badass in PvP with one point.. not that it means much coming from me who is rarely able to PvP due to tremendous lag. For PvE I've found it almost useless, the dual sword part does slightly more than my Ghost Slash and the fixed damage makes it seem pointless to level with our other hugely damaging percent based moves.

    Not sure about Blache but I would think those nutters who hit bosses for 300k with it must have it maxed.
  19. Fynl Lunchbox Hero

    Ah, I'm pure PvE. I guess I might drop it. Is it good for as a ranged attack?
    Also, what's the dual sword part that you mentioned (and I've seen elsewhere)? Is it just the melee attack hitting twice (like frenzy/LS SST) or is it something else?
  20. Ring "...that's my role."

    When you press/cast kalla again you do 3 powerful slash and each one count as 2 hits.


    Is maxed Ghost slash good? I'm planning on maxing it :v I love the power of it. I have lvl 17: 15+2 right now :3

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