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General Witch Discussion

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Holypie, May 10, 2010.

  1. saccharin That one crazy witch

    VAkiha is my PvE build. cubeless is kind of delicious.
  2. Prelude vroom

    Anyone else raging at the new lag system and manteau? Every time the drop screen comes out, the players in that room get this bug where they just don't get grabbed by manteau, even when they're in a different room. People need to learn to relog after the drop screen comes out because the game doesn't play properly :(..
  3. Tempo Tasteless

    Oh god yes. My manateu whiffs unless its perfect connection.

    On a side note:
    Im getting better at fighting Battle Mages
    BattleSage and I were fighting and i was like 3-7. Then again im a level 38 with all blues against a geared out level 50 ;_;
  4. saccharin That one crazy witch

    I've basically stopped using manteau in PvP. I test manteau in the first game with a standard dash cxx manteau, and if it doesn't connect, I don't bother with manteau at all.

    It's TOO easy to get punished so if you think there's lag and you won't hit even if it's positioned correctly, don't bother with it. You'll just eat a counter or punish combo. It's good to learn to not rely on manteau
  5. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    Welcome to the hell that is being a slayer without WWS cancel. Any sort of lag and it'll just ping someone (they'll flash red/yellow) and do nothing. Really irritating.
  6. saccharin That one crazy witch

    Yeah grabs kind of don't really work anymore in PvP.
  7. Prelude vroom

    ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff I love manteau :(
  8. geenareeno Not gReenareeno

    No kidding. Also i kinda just came here to rage about near maxed manteau and it's blinding. That fucker blinds you for over half the match and you can't see at all. It doesn't help that you're fighting a primarily AoE magic class. How many PvP witches max manteau?
  9. saccharin That one crazy witch

    Almost none, actually. Prelude, Lachrymose, I think maybe Midori on one of her witches, Gloria, and a couple.. miniwitch too I think

    I'm pretty sure it's less than 10 though. Vast majority of witches don't bother maxing it, because the SP investment is huge, like 500 almost.

    Blind for 10 seconds, CD 9 seconds? yes plz
  10. AiNoMinako Poke Poke Poke

    blind of mantoe is horrible for a battlemage its already horrible fighting a witch *bwitch =_=* as a battle mage and then blind kicks in and u can no longer even think about winning bc u cant dodge the witch's scrubbing and or attack where she lands +_+ hate witchs on my bm
  11. saccharin That one crazy witch

    I'm sorry I love trolling BMs so hard <3
  12. geenareeno Not gReenareeno

    Are you SURE it's only 10 seconds maxed? I want to test this. (hey, i don't have a witch)
  13. Tempo Tasteless

    Its 10 seconds.
  14. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    Don't forget the hit rate debuff makes you drop combos a lot too.
  15. Jormungandr SUPER SWORD

  16. saccharin That one crazy witch

    It's only -17% hit rate at max. :3
  17. Rawrrr Bitch.

    Only -17%. You hear that? It means you're just bad at BM.
  18. AiNoMinako Poke Poke Poke

    =_= those 17% miss happens with that horrible blind and adding the fact that the witch would be scrubing u while ur blind + 17% miss and while your a battlemage =_=
  19. MasPan Shi-SHAW!

    17% + 3% natural evasion is already 20%. It's easy to get 7% more from cloth top + belt, 4% from avatars - that's 31% evasion. Poor Rhasa only does 10% hit rate reduct :(

    Incidentally, anyone know if you can stack Blind? I doubt it...but ya never know.
  20. LtDrebin New Member

    My lvl 31 PvE witch used her Lethe's Bell and I'm thinking of going a fire/ice build. This will be a caster witch, as opposed to the melee or melee hybrids. I'm looking to max lava potion, shururu, acid rain, furnace, ice car, and EMM, as well as befriend frost and befriend lantern.

    For such a build, should befriend florae be maxed, because EMM is pretty hax even without the mastery. Also, in ancient memory really needed? I'm running into SP issues and I'm not sure I can squeeze in the 250 SP.

    Here's what I have thus far: http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=witch#050:uLevSoxKkxMkxLkxRdxOdxNkyAqxSdxUnxWfyBlxYh

    I could max befriend florae, ancient memory, ancient library (parties love this), snow dust (probably not, I'll only melee to lock down dangerous enemies in the air), or jackyl (huge damage, but no manual detonation at the moment).

    Another possibility is the max magic critical or magic rear attack. With all of the AoE, back attacks would be VERY common.

    I'm assuming the witch patch is still a long ways off. Skills get changed around quite a bit from it IIRC.

    Also, about cubeless builds:

    Can anyone explain to me what exactly a cubeless build is? I believe it is a witch that doesn't get broomstick spin, gravitas, furnace, collider, or ice car and instead maxes everything low level. Lava potion and acid rain get changed in a future patch to be not require cubes. What is the advantage of such a build over the traditional two-element builds? It looks like a caster build with maxed EMM + florae and maxed pluto skills, but the lvl 40 and lvl 45 skills are REALLY nice AoE skills...

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