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Best PVE & PVP Asura Build?

Discussion in 'Slayer' started by Nanoonat, Jun 14, 2010.

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  1. Nanoonat Has no custom title :)

    My friend got his asura to level 18 and doesn't know what skills to level up. He likes PVEing and PVPing so he wants a build that involves both. Can someone provide a good build and explain why the skills are what they are?
  2. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    PvP: My guide
    PvE: Biased guide

    See what you get out of that, if you still have questions ask me or prototypical.
  3. BeyondInsane 狂気

    even tho my FULLY 100% PVE guide is bias in your opinion its not ment for those who wanna pvp. Like your that suggest lol Deadly Enticer

    [sarcasm]I guess tho its cuz its the best skill in the game [/sarcasm] Keep in mind you CANT buy sp Focus int boost is not all that great and Asura are mostly a Run n Gun type playing so you Should not be getting hit much at all. If you friend wants to pvp i suggest he read the failed blanix guide. if he wants 100% pve read mine.
  4. Dice Dragon Level 46 Manzer Brodor

    ITT:Asura dick fight

    PvE
    No upper cancel cause if you need style xxx->NWS will get you that.
    It also gets enticer, if you dont like enticer, drop it and focus and pick up 5 Upper/cancel. Not to tough.

    Or hell, throw it into fire wave.

    Haha classy sig BI. Deadly enticer mang, SRS BSNS.

  5. BeyondInsane 狂気

    keep in mind Fire can do just as much if not more than DE with NO need to set up for it mob of 20+ can be hit for 4-6k (8-12k on aquaris) on 1st hit and like 10-13k (14-20k on aquaris)on second while DE does all that in one hit and send then in a 8 way direction and FW keep them on you aixs and lets you keep tossing out your other was to run and gun with. not to mention the post cast delay on DE is horrible too. All in all 135 points for a skill that has limited uses is not worth it.
  6. Dice Dragon Level 46 Manzer Brodor

    With max pull at 60 cap,(Thats like using a mobbing skill on one enemy, its silly) Before INT, since the INT would be constant, it does not matter,

    DE=(600)(1.2)(9.54)=6869

    Fire wave=2788+4647=7435

    You think you win the arguement because it does indeed do more damage, DE is just another trump card you can pull out. So why not get both? Also DE, at max pull is doing 954% damage, peircing in other words gets multiplied. So a that +200 peirce becomes +1800ish armor ignoring damage.
  7. BeyondInsane 狂気

    Still SP is better spent else where for a skill with very very limited uses.

    you cant buy sp keep that in mind, Focus regen is laughable as is the int if the int was higher i would consider Focus. till then i'm not touching that skill
  8. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    Your supreme rightness of everything that you have no experience of makes you all the better to make fun of.
    Its like Dice says, its not a choice between the two, you CAN realistically have both.

    Now I'm going to explain a few things to you because you obviously didn't even read anything I said from our last bout on this.
    1. I did not suggest people use deadly enticer in my pvp guide.
    2. No one says its the best skill in the game.
    3. You can't buy sp, but what does this have to do with how you make your build? It doesn't.
    4. Fire wave compared to Deadly Enticer will do less with basic gear but let me remind you Deadly Enticer CAN do more damage and has a range big enough to hit everything on screen at higher levels.

    level 5 focus = 1.25 mp per second = 75 mp per min
    level 10 focus = 2.5 mp per second = 150 mp per min
    Last time I checked our mp regen is was pretty fucking low. If you get hit a lot in pve or don't get hit a lot in pve that is play style. So it does not apply to everyone that is has little use.

    Jesus did Deadly Enticer kill your family? What is this gigantic amount of hostility? Its just a skill and even more so ITS JUST A GAME.
  9. Gir Raging Homosexual

    Deadly enticer is fake and gay
  10. BeyondInsane 狂気

    ^ sums up what i am trying to say ^

    And you must be playing you asura wrong if you having mp problems. Oh wait you must be one of the asura dumbasses who MW from start to end of dungeon turn it off dipshit. MP problem solved.
  11. DOXOlove Slayer Slut

    lmao the waste of 135 points all together makes this argument so mind boggling to begin with. Putting points into two currently useless skills (any good asura IN THIS CAP is NOT getting hit more than 5 times total a dungeon and the MP/min is not noticeable regardless of number crunching), then maxing percentile skills like ground quaker instead of neutral makes me go '????' to where points go in any builds someone makes with them.

    I peek at these threads every day and pray to god it's just them trolling the shit out of some poor kid that doesn't know how to spec correctly, but am blown away by how they seriously are telling kids to spend their leveling SP in a skill that teaches them to get spam hit in dungeons, have a dank level of firewave/neutral, and use the excuse 'niqqa just hit yourself with a skytree nut to make it work'. Praying for skills to proc instead of being self efficient, not getting hit in dungeons, and able to utilize your magic damage to its full extent. Oh wait, are they still trolling??

    On a serious note, Deadly Enticer is fake and gay
  12. Fynl Lunchbox Hero

    Stick to the topic at hand and leave the personal attacks out.
  13. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    Just pointing out the mp regen isn't terribad. Never said the skill was MUST HAVE.

    @DOXO: I'm glad you put out more effort to try to explain your reasoning than "its bad don't get it".
    I only have a problem with people who don't even consult why or how its bad. And I'm almost certan that BI never used it before to be able to experiment with it. I'd rather keep the information in this forum to a full and understanding spectrum.

    Deadly Enticer will not be a viably useful skill until 60 cap where counter attack evasion can be abused and the damage the skill causes in mobs becomes obsurd. But to say that fire wave out damages it (fixed vers %) is just plain fucking stupid. People leave % skills at lowest levels because its damage can be increased via better weapons where fixed damage skills will never get stronger unless you increase you level the skill or pour INT into your stats.

    If Dice would be so kind as to calculate the damage from level 10 fire wave to level 10 deadly enticer with a weapon that has roughly 800 magic attack?
  14. BeyondInsane 狂気

    Blanix dont make and assumption

    i've stated before in my PVE thread that i had a 37 asura from early access during the forty cap that got delete cuz he had DE horrid skill.
  15. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    ^ Is missing the point here.
  16. BeyondInsane 狂気

    @The Above poster

    The asura i had in early access had - 40 cap had DE he died shortly later at 37 from being deleted. the skill is horrible needs a major overhaul, not to mention you need MW on. Don't make assumptions you look like and ass when you do.
  17. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    Dice, I'm pretty sure people get +11/12s on their pink/purple/epic weapons at 60. The base mag attack of weapons is gona be way higher than 600.

    @BI: Put some effort behind your reasoning and it wont happen.
  18. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    Like I said, fixed vers % is a stupid argument. % Will always be capable of more.
  19. iVideo Like de waymy bluntsmell?

    You can lob a fire wave instantly. You can't cast DE instantly. DE takes 5 years to use. Fire wave is more reliable. Get out. I win.
  20. BlanixTheBlood Perfect hair

    Fire wave has cast time.
    DE has preparation time, not cast time. Therefor it is instant cast.

    But that being entirely beside the point. Fire wave was only a damage comparison that BI brought to the table.

    Dice I'm not wrong, only argumentative.
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