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Summoner Thread and General Discussion (Post Questions Here)

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Glamador, May 8, 2010.

  1. Gloomy dicks

    I had a +12 GBL Baton in second spine so I can't really comment.

    This post is useless then heh. Though, try switching to a staff. A bit of magic attack helps more than you think.
  2. Halbare Has a custom title :)

    Damn...oh well I guess I can suffer to 35 and upgrade the lucid and see how high i can get it before resets or breaks...i have the worst luck.
  3. Gir Raging Homosexual

    Been considering resetting my gaia to contract, but don't have the nx/gold to really do it at the moment.
    BUT IF I DO...
    On Hell Flower, should I stop at 10 for the poison? Or keep pumping it? There isn't THAT much to put points into, so it seems like pumping it would be fine.
    Should I max Summoners Train, Zealous Creature, or Spirit Bond? I don't see that much from summoners train, I usually just use it to bring the summons into the mob, and then turn it off and mark the target spam, and the skill relies on you getting hit, so I'm really not a big fan of leveling it over 1. Zealous Creature = more int. And Spirit Bond increases duration, which is actually noticeable on contracts, since they last 200 seconds, and it adds 12% when maxed, also, extra cspd bonus too.
  4. firecraker Member

    if you want flower to do damage at level 60 you should max it or dump it.

    if you have enough points put it in ancient memory or sprit bond.

    zealous is kind of weird but i recommend putting 1 or max if you have enough points.

    A contract build
  5. TheEnd187 Member

    so I had 271 leftover SP at level 50 so I decided to put points into freet, he's at lvl37 atm -_-;; but his dps is higher than a lvl51 sandor if you can keep him on the X axis.

    some thing's I like
    -very fast mover(with 3x whip he's insanely fast)
    -X axis spam and stunlock with zealous
    -low cooldown for pvp
    -moderate mp usage

    some things I don't liike
    -sometimes just flies around(fixed with mark/whip/zealous)
    -current level his cooldowns are noticeable
    -0 dps if enemy uses Y axis a lot
  6. Soltis Carried by Sandors

    Hey~ random tidbit of info I'm curious about;

    I know you can hit summons up to 3 times with Lasher, but does the effect triple stack the same way mark the target does?

    i.e lvl20 lasher that gives 30% mspd 20% aspd or whatnot, at x3 whips would be 90% / 60%?
  7. firecraker Member

    im not sure but i think it does. but if someone can clarify i will add it to the faqs
  8. Gloomy dicks

    It stacks 3 times on creatures, 2 times on PCs.
  9. Soltis Carried by Sandors

    Thanks.

    Pretty sure about this but may as well have it on the record somewhere;

    ASPD speeds up the lasher animation?
  10. Sie_Sayoka Public Enemy #1

    Nothing does, only thing that will make lasher faster would be festival for the cooldown.
  11. geenareeno Not gReenareeno

    Build

    Will this build work for pure pve/fun? I plan on reseting once i hit cap for PvP. Comments?
  12. Margatroid Extreme Fag (EXTREME!!)

    Wondering if anyone has any fun pve sac builds :D

    Assume Freet is maxed and Hodor is level 10.

    Thinking Wisp and Naias is a must.
  13. Sie_Sayoka Public Enemy #1

    http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/...vAkvXjuVfuXfuWfuYrvFkwAlxBfxCkxDlxEfvVivWgxHc
    IMO having a contract other than freet would be much more helpful. Aukuso and Sander are great tanks and good to group up the enemies for sac.
  14. Soltis Carried by Sandors

    A summon should always either be left at 0, taken to pre-req level only, or max/1lvl from max.
    Any kind of randomish level or lvl1 is basically useless and just a waste of MP pretty much.

    I would also recommend you skip lasher/zealous and use those extra points to get mark the target maxed out.
    Not only does zealous scale somewhat bad SP-wise, but I just don't believe the SP needed is usually worth it. Not to mention the damage increase to all your summons, and your own tick damage from mark is probably alot more overall than what zealous gives.
  15. Psych Oh you so pringles!

    What kind of build would be used to maximize dps?
  16. Sie_Sayoka Public Enemy #1

  17. Psych Oh you so pringles!

  18. Sie_Sayoka Public Enemy #1

  19. Psych Oh you so pringles!

    It's beautiful. Though king is kinda random but I suppose I can max it later on when the cap is raised. (Later on as in 2 years for Nexon speed)
  20. Sie_Sayoka Public Enemy #1

    Since you don't have aukuso you need a tank, and king is still very good even at lv1. IMO having freet isnt worth the sp.

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